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    November 17, 2009
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surprised by what the governor says. sarah palin makes her debut on "the factor" in 48 hours. don't miss it. billoreilly.com. email us at oreilly@foxnews.com. i am bill o'reilly. we'll see you again next time. sean: the most anticipated political memoir of the year hit bookstores all across the country. sayer palin's "going rogue" is atop the best seller ligs at barns & noble and amazon.com and on day two of the book tour she sat down with abc's barbara walters and during the interview the governor had some strong words for president barack obama. let's take a look. >> barack obama. on a scale of 1-10, 10 being the best, where do you rate barack obama? >> a four. a four, i think there are a lot of decisions being made that i and probably the majority of americans are not impressed with right now. our economy is not being put on the right track and i question
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too some of the dithering and hesitation with some of our national security questions that have got to be answered for our country. so a four. sean: governor palin will be here for the full hour tomorrow night. it will be her very first cable interview since the release of her book. and joining me with analysis on the governor's appearance on g.m.a. is the author of "what americans really want, really, really, really." we have pollster and president of the war doctors, frank luntz. >> i'm looking at that clip. abc cut as close as they could to her. that's a trick that 60 minutes discovered. the closer they get to you, the more likely that people are going to distrust you. they know that and they cut in to make her look less effective and less articulate. and it's not fair in an interview. sean: would -- we're going to do a straight start to finish, no editing and with a lot of these shows there's a lot of editing that goes on. the whole katie couric thing
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which she describes in detail, so much was left on the cutting room floor because it's gotcha. >> and she should never have done that. that's one of the things -- i talked to her outside the studio. it's one of those things where you only do it live. you only do it for 15 minutes. you take whatever comes. and you don't give them two hours. sean, you're one of the most articulate people on television. in two hours you're going to say one or two things you will regret. sean: me? >> in two minutes i will say a couple of things i'll regret. sean: i don't do interviews. i try to stay away as many -- from as many people as i can. i got four hours. a lot of this is gotcha, how can we make you look bad? so the more time a candidate spends with a reporter, the liberal media, what? >> she should have done it live. if i would have been her advisor i would have said cbs, katie couric, abc, nbc, come, i'll do an interview with any
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of you but you're going to come out to indiana or kentucky. you're going to come out to nebraska and do it live in front of the american people. sean: or live to tape? >> i would have done it in front of all of america there. she was drawing, 20000, 30,000, 50,000 to hear her speak. why not do the interview in front of those people? sean: that's not a bad idea. there are ways mediawise that people can handle an environment that is predictably hostile. look, i like the governor. i voted for the governor. i've been out on the campaign trail with her. she's a rock store. and she -- if she decides to get in in 2012, she will be a formidable candidate. >> but there are times when her language, when the words that she chooses, i know you got some clips here, there are times when the words she chooses could have been better. there are times when she says things because she is so real, that she will say things that are not as effective as they could have been. sean: but all right. let's say franklin starts advising her -- frank luntz starts advising her.
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do you want her to be a plastic, contrived, rehearsed -- i'll give you an example. we do our great american panel every night. we tell people what the topics are. he always pick two topics that i don't tell them to get honest answers. that's a little sneaky, i know. >> but you can be honest and candid and effective as well. you talk about transparency. and business, nobody knows what that means. but they know what accountability means. they know what responsibility means. changing a single word. you got a clip in there if you want to show it. sean: we'll schmo it right now. the -- show it right now. the first one? >> during the press campaign, the press reported unnamed mccain ads calling you a diva. you know this. a wack job. a narcissist. why do you think these people were trying to destroy your reputation? >> for some people, this is a business. and if failure in this business was going to reflect poorly on them, they have to pack their
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own parachutes and protect themselves and their reputations so they wouldn't be blamed. i'll take the blame, though. because i know at the end of the day, what the truth is. and if it makes them feel better to be able to say she's the one who caused the downfall because she had a lousy interview -- then so be it. >> there are two great phrases i would have suggested she used. number one is the buck stops here. sean: she said i'll take responsibility. >> she did. and that's why she's good. and that's why so many people still want to hear what she has to say and support her. but the other aspect is if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. what she could have done right there is pivot to why politics in america is so broken. why people are so intense and so angry and so divided that we can't even have a civil communication anymore. sean: it's very interesting to me, because i read the whole book cover to cover. there's a story -- >> i bet you that none of the other people -- sean: i can show you my marked up book. i read every word of the book.
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there's a story she tells about her father. and i'm going to ask her about it at the start of the interview tomorrow. takes her hunting. they kill a moose before she goes to school. the father takes out the warm eyeballs of the moose and i'm thinking, is this where -- first of all, most people buy their packaged meat and don't understand the reality of where our meat comes from. a very different life in alaska, that she's more real than people that are "trained and sophisticated" and go through media whatever? >> that stupid tv show, "real lives of housewives" and all of that, it's not real. she is real. but she also has to set the context for that reality. to explain to the american people that she did grow up differently. sean: let's roll a tape where she talks about running for president. >> well, here is the big question. do you ever want to be
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president of the united states? >> that certainly isn't on my radar screen right now. but when you consider some of the ordinary turning into extraordinary events that have happened in my life, i am not one to predict what will happen in a few years. my ambition, if you will, my desire, is to help our country in whatever role that may be. and i cannot predict what that will be, what doors would be opened in the year 2012. >> we were talking, she used the word ambition. if she had said my ambition -- my passion or commitment it would have had a different reaction to people and they pay attention to that. sean: you're really good at what you do. you advise politicians and advise a lot of people in the public arena how to deal with the media. but maybe if she -- one of the things she talks about in the campaign is she couldn't be sarah. if she would have listened to you, and become the little contrived -- does she become a little canned, does she become
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a little -- >> she became contrived and canned because of what was done to her. sean: isn't that real what you just saw there? >> but she believes in this -- sometimes people in public life don't think of the power of the language that they ution. they don't realize that people form immediate judgments based on a single word or phrase. based on if they wear a light or dark coat or what tie they wear. sean: i would say who picked out that coat and tie for you? >> this is the nicest most expensive suit that i own, sean. and we'll make a youtube moment here. she has great potential because she's a real human being. sean: she could be elected in 2012. you believe that? >> i don't know. what i know is this -- if she were to remove that 5% that cause people to stop and replace it with something that connects them that much more, she becomes a powerful candidate. but if she doesn't do that, and she allows networks to cut in
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on her the way that they did, then she's going to have challenges all the way through. but people still care about her because everybody's buying her book. sean: it's true. huge best seller. and it just came out today. and was already a best seller. frank, thanks for being with us. >> thank you. sean: the first cable exclusive interview with sarah palin on her brand new book for the full hour here tomorrow night on "hannity." it is the one interview you don't want to miss. you can set your d.v.r. much more to come tonight and here is a sneak peek. >> it's a wee bit degrading. sean: so is this. news week cover sexist. governor palin thinks so. liberal groups complain the stmluss is just not working. -- the stimulus is just not working. gentlemeny carter has no regrets on -- jimmy carter has no regrets on his actions during the iran hostage crisis. dick cheney slams president obama for projecting weakness in asia. all of that plus dana perino,
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karl rove and our great, great american panel. there's more "hannity" straight ahead.
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sean: president obama's radical policies are working like imagine nick one -- like magic in one sense. poll numbers plummeting among independents since last month. 45%, down from 52 ers% in october. -- from 52% in october. if you keep this up the republicans will thank you nor paving way for big victories in
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2010. dana perino and stuart varney.
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sean: governor sarah palin is making waves this week and that's probably why she landed on the cover of "newsweek" magazine but now that magazine cover, it's stirring up controversy. some are calling it sexist for the way that it depicts palin. and take a look at the governor's reaction. >> have you seen the cover of "newsweek"? it's a picture of you in shorts
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from a photograph that was taken for a runner's world magazine. so how do you feel about they're showing you like that on the cover? >> i think that it's so cheesy. had i known then that a picture of me in shorts would end up on the cover of "newsweek," i would not have allowed runners world to profile me. i think that that -- for me, personally, it's a wee bit degrading. news week should be more -- more policy oriented, more substance oriented than showing some gal in shorts on the cover. sean: not only that, but runners world shot the image featured by news week and used it for a specific purpose to feature well-known runners and promote health and fitness among its readers. the magazine is now going out of its way to make clear that it did not provide "newsweek" with this image. and in an editorial note, runners world writes "runners world did not provide news week with the image. instead, it was provided to "newsweek" by the
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photographer's stock agency without runners' world knowledge or permission. i wonder if it's standard practice for "newsweek" to swipe images that have appeared on other magazines or if they only do that when they think it will make governor palin look bad. joining me with reaction to all of this is former white house press secretary dana perino and from the fox business network stuart varney. governor palin -- i'll ask her about this tomorrow night when she's on the program, she said the out of context "newsweek" approach is sexist and oh so expected by now. do you think it's sexist? >> i think it's worse than sexist. it's demeaning and degrading and "newsweek" knew exactly what it was doing. they made sexuality a part of her performance. and this is something that if it had happened to someone on the left, the feminist organizations would be screaming about. and the other thing is that the editor of "newsweek" said they chose a cover that was most interesting. one that was available to them to illustrate the theme of the cover, and that they apply the same test of photographs of any public figure. how would they have depicted
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john edwards? i would love to see that photograph. sean: that's such a great point. >> i think it was deliberately demeaning. explicit and deliberately demeaning. the left can't tolerate a woman like sarah palin. she's the mother of five. she's willing and loving mother of a downs syndrome child. she did not go to an elite college. she handles a gun. she shoots things. she's from a alaska. she goes at issues head on. they can't tolerate this kind of woman. so they demean her and her agenda. sean: have they been effective to some extent in besearching her name and her character? -- besmirching her name and her character? i've been around her a lot and interviewed her a lot. we'll have her for the full hour tomorrow night. but i think she has paid an unfair price for these unfair attacks. >> yes, i do. i think the sheer volume of these attacks and the nasty negative nature of these attacks. the sheer volume has had an effect.
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there's an awful lot of people, if you say can sarah palin run and win? i don't know. look at the publicity she gets. i just don't know whether she can do it or not. that's the price she's paying. >> there is a special burden for women in politics. and we saw that even for hillary clinton. and especially if pure an attractive woman and a conservative woman. then that burden is even -- is even greater. but the grate thing for sarah palin is she's having a wonderful book tour and done some great interviews and she will have one for you with an hour and will tour the country. "newsweek" can't find a photograph that could work? they had to steal one from runner's world magazine? this is a woman who could at the drop of a hat get 10,000 women or men and women to come and hear her speak. >> stuart -- >> she becomes an issues machine. that's what i would like to see. sean: i'll preview this with the audience. we're going to spend a lot of time on issues tomorrow. and look, i saw a couple of the interviews. and i was confident that the people that were doing the interviewing did not read the book. i read the book cover to cover.
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and there's so much about her that i learned that i had not known before. but would this happen to a liberal woman? is there any instance we can find? >> can i read you one other point? sean: never. >> the article that goes along with "newsweek's" story written by evan thomas says that obama knows the long odds against a right wing populist winning the presidency, no matter if she's wearing a -- no matter how good she looks in a skirt or running clothes brandishing a gun. and "newsweek" did not help itself with this. and we know why they did this because they wanted to create a controversy. they wanted to sell more magazines. and they wanted to demean sarah palin. sean: and they're using sarah palin. they know if she's on the cover they're going to sell more magazines. >> it's a silly, ridiculous magazine at this point. sean: socialist now. >> it's silly. >> and this media coverage, created an electricity around
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her? you've been close to sarah palin. there is a buzz around her. sean: i've been to many political events. but i have never seen the reaction to any one candidate, and maybe obama is right there on the democratic side. to any republican or conservative than the reaction to governor palin. >> i would have been outside the beltway and outside of manhattan, colorado, wyoming, texas. and the words i heard most often used to describe her were i can trust her and i can relate to her. that doesn't mean everybody thinks she can be president of the united states or she should run for the presidency. but as a governor she had accomplished a lot and they identify with her. sean: dana and stuart would be a good ticket. >> for what? >> i wasn't born in the united states of america. >> take you to the prom maybe. >> i'm flattered. sean: you just made stuart's year. >> you surely did. sean: interesting, so what's the net result of this? is there going to be a
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backlash? >> it could well be. >> against what, "newsweek"? or against her? sean: a backlash against all the palin haters. there really is a visceral hatred. and it's not based on substance interestingly enough. >> what are they afraid of? sean: are they afraid of her? >> yes. when you start to hear her talk about issues, when she goes after obama on the economy, and there's some meat to go at there, is there not? when she does that, you listen to what she's saying about the issues, that's when you get the backlash. sean: i'll give you a preview for everybody tomorrow night. i'm going to ask her questions and -- sort of like governor palin in her own words. which nobody's interviewed her and really allowed her the opportunity to talk about significant issues. and i think people can then judge for themselves. >> let's see who she really is and what she's really talking about she really thinks. >> i've loved "newsweek." but this is very sad. and if this wasn't so sad i
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would be embarrassed for them. sean: journalism is dead in this country. guys, good to see you. thank you for being here. coming up a stimulus tax cut may have you shelling out more money to your friends at the i.r.s. that's how democrats do tax cuts. we have the details on the treasury department's screwup and the architect, karl rove, will weigh in on all things khalid sheik muhammad and governor palin coming up next.
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sean: tonight in "hannity's america" conservatives are not the only ones who think the stimulus package was a colossal failure. the naacp, the afl-cio and la raza are complaining the stimulus has not worked and the president must do more to fight unemployment. with unemployment among african-americans above 20% in
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several states, senior naacp official hillary shelton told "the new york times" "it's time for us to really stoke this issue up. " put the groups say they are not picking a fight with the president but pressuring him in ways he wants to be pressured. i'm sure. and another key element of the obama administration, stimulus plan, is backfiring in a major way. according to a treasury department report, millions of americans may have to repay part of the making work pay tax credit. you may remember the so-called tax break was one of the white house's top talking points on the stimulus plan. >> the making work pay tax credit which gives $800 for a working household, as i said, helps 95% of working families. and it is the most workers, as the president said, the most workers to ever receive a tax cut in the history of this country. during the recovery period, making work pay, is expected to put $100 billion into the pocket of hard-working americans. sean: guess what, robert?
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15.4 million americans may have all that money taken right back out of their pockets. now, the treasury's inspector general for tax administration says because of this credit, taxpayers may have had too little withheld in 2009. and may be forced to repay the i.r.s. when they file in 2010. somehow the anointed one has found a way to disguise tax hikes as tax credits. simply amazing. >> and now it's time for great moments in liberal foreign policy. sean: and former president jimmy carter is engaging in one of his favorite activities, revisionist history. now, the peanut farming president tells the a.p. that he has no regrets about his actions during the low point of his presidency. and that is the iran hostage crisis of 1979. in november of that year, radical militants stormed the american embassy in tehran, and took 52 american hostages while president carter begged and pleaded with the ayatollah.
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you wouldn't believe what carter had to say about that. "obviously if i had rescued the hostages, or they had not been taken, i would have been re-elected." oh, right. he was doing such a great job on the economy and a great job as president. just until that little incident derailed everything. and barack obama's popularity is not just tanking here in the u.s. he's also losing support in europe. now, the popular german news magazine der spiegel published a scathing rebuke of the president under a glaring headline that reads "obama has failed the world on climate change." the magazine says "barack obama cast himself as a citizen of the world when he delivered his well received campaign speech in berlin. but the u.s. president has now betrayed this claim in his berlin speech, he was dishonest with europe." i guess the rest of the world is starting to see that barack obama has a little bit of
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trouble keeping his word. and that is the news tonight from hannity's america and coming up, an eagle scout has come under the crosshairs of the sciu. you won't believe why. we'll tell you that outrageous story and the architect, karl rove, straight ahead. ññ?y@?
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sean: one young man in the sciu dog house. the union isang write kevin anderson who works for weeks to clear a walking path at a local park. but according to the morning call newspaper, it's the view
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of the sciu that no one except union members may pick up a hoe or shovel or plant a flower or clear a walking path and the war on volunteerism has begun. unbelievable.
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sean: and barack obama is currently in the middle of his first visit to asia as president. and his behavior overseas is raising some serious national security questions here back home. the image of the american president bowing before the emperor of japan has been seen in every corner of the globe. and former vice president dick cheney is speaking about the controversial exchange saying there is no reason for an american president to bow to anyone. our friends and allies don't expect it. ouren miss see it as a sign of -- our enemies see it as a sign of weakness. we have karl rove. is it a sign of weakness, karl? >> absolutely. i think it's even seen as such
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in japan where i've talked to people who are japanese, cultural experts, and they say look, a minor nod to the emperor is seen as an act of respect by the japanese. but to bow, so deeply to the waist, 90 degree angle, is seen as an act of subservience. for the president of the united states to act in that manner is just degrading. sean: i'm sorry. go ahead. >> you know, it would be bad enough but that's only one of several things that he's done on this trip which have sent the wrong signals. particularly within asia. sean: and you would think he would have learned after bowing to the king of saudi rabe. -- saudi arabia. is there anyone advising him on any protocol? >> well, i thought it was remarkable the way the white house press corps was brushed off on this issue by the white house press spinmeisters saying basically go get lost. this was the right thing to do. they ought to be at least consistent. they did not bow to the queen
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of england and we got a special relationship with her. and with her country. yet they bow to the emperor of japan. i just don't get it. sean: and i would argue that they're bowing at the altar of socialism. but that's a separate issue for another day. i think one of the more troubling aspects of this entire trip is that we've got to get lectured by the communist chinese on the merits of capitalism. because they are buying our bonds and are concerned about the future value of american currency. >> well, yeah. and, you know, they are worried about that. they want american capitalism to be strong so they can get their money back. but look, they're also laughing at us. for example, the president gave -- they hyped this supposedly freewheeling town hall meeting that was going to be at the museum of science and technology. and it turned out the audience were a bunch of appear rat chicks -- a bunch of
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apparatchuks from the communist youth leak. and other presidents have insisted with meeting with ordinary chinese and not preselected communist party wannabes. you can imagine how the chinese behind the scenes were laughing at the willingness of president obama's people to say we want to meet with ordinary chinese and then to cave when the chinese said no, we want you to meet with young communist party leaders. this is what makes us look weak in the eyes of public action and private action behind the scenes. and again, this is not the only example. there were several others that occurred on the trip including tibet and the question of human rights. sean: how could you have questioned the chinese about human rights when you need their money to fund your massive deficit spending? it doesn't seem something that's possible to me. >> well, president bush talked to them about human rights. absolutely we ought to stand for these universal values. in fact, president obama sort of tried to. he talked about the freedom of religion and the freedom of
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expression as being universal rights. but he refused to bring up in a high public way tibet. he made a comment about tibet while he was there. but the amazing thing was the chinese looked at it and said he wasn't even willing to be with the dalai lama in the united states of america. so clearly we can dismiss him here because he won't -- he won't say tough things about human rights. and he won't lay down the law on tibet. they sort of expected us to be tough on those issues. and when -- they take it as a sign of weakness. sean: let me ask you about khalid sheikh mohammed. and we will have these trials in civilian courts. it's going to be a circus. we're going to reveal, i believe, intelligence secrets. i think that will do great harm to our intelligence community. the families are going to have to relive that agony again. i think it's going to hamstring our fight against terrorism. do you see -- and ultimately, because we didn't mile an hour dies -- we didn't mirandaize
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khalid sheikh mohammed, he may walk away. >> that's a really bad decision. the -- they put people out there to say you know what? he made these -- he made these public statements in other -- as character witnesses in other cases. mostly involving hamdan, the driver for usama bin laden. in which he admitted the leadership of the 9-11 attacks. so we'll rely on that, they were suggesting, for the prosecution. not upon the statements he gave us. but look, you're absolutely right. your only mistake is you left out one important thing. that is this puts this guy in a gigantic world stage in which everybody in the islamic world is going to be able to see him. and he will be able to achieve the martyrdom that gives him a life after death in the islamic world. you'll notice how he's preparing himself for this. he was a bum as -- when we picked him up in pakistan. looked like a bum. looked like a did i shelved --
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like a disheveled drunk is what he looked like. now in white flowing robes with the beard looking like a martyr and he will use this as a way to inflame sentiment inside the islamic world and create more jihadists to follow in his footsteps. and the administration is going to rue the day that they allowed this to be done in such a public manner and in such an explosive way. sean: i'm going to predict that there will be a political price to pay because it will become a circus. the reason is they want to put president bush, president cheney, and our c.i.a. on trial there to make a political point. and if they do that, and it backfires as i predict, this will not be a good decision on their part. but i don't think they see that yet. >> look, even if it doesn't play out that way, it's a bad decision for the security interests of the united states of america. sean: we're going to be revealing secrets to ouren miss again. >> -- to our enemies again. >> absolutely. sean: what greta van susteran has on the record. what is it?
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greta: it's 4.5 million of them. if you look to stick around to find out tonight, like i stick around to hear your first interview tomorrow with governor sarah palin. so i'm not giving you any -- sean: it looks pink. is it my monitor? it looks pink from where i'm looking. greta it's cloink. -- greta: it's pink. sean: that's all you give me? >> tell me about your interview with governor palin and i'll tell you about these. sean: i'll write you later. >> all right. sean: i'll send you an email. i'm text you. -- i'll text you. greta: i look forward to the interview. sean: let not your heart be troubled. when we come back, the great, great, great american panel. ♪ anyone can prove they're strong once.
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sean: and tonight on our great,
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great american panel he is a columnist with "the wall street journal," author of how the obama administration threatens to undermine our elections, john fund is back. he is a democratic pollster, fox news contributor, doug schoen is here. and he is a number one best-selling author whose newest thriller is "pursuit of honor." vince flynn is with us. and for the first time welcome aboard. >> thank you. sean: these two are veterans. we know them. all right. so governor palin is out on this media tour. she's got her new book out. you know something about books. it is a massive best seller. before it even hit the bookstores today. why is she so popular and how does that translate, that popularity, do you think, into maybe a political future? >> she's different. she's fresh. people are sick of the same old thing. they don't like the way she was treated during the last election. she has -- she had every bit as much experience, a little different, than president obama. the few gaffes that she said were no worse than vice president biden's. and they just saw her be so
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unfairly savaged by the press. it would be different if they did the same thing to biden. if they went after president obama the exact same way. but especially women, they saw the way she was treated. they didn't like it. >> sean, i think there's a gap in american politics. the right and the left are not speaking to the needs and concerns of ordinary people. and to me, very simply, sarah palin is genuine. whatever her inadequacies are, and they're real, people see her and identify her -- identify with her and that's why she's getting the response she is. sean: 40% of the country identifies itself as i am. i don't know why people think i'm a republican. i say it over and over again i'm a conservative. i'm a reagan conservative. 40% of this country is conservative. only 20% identifies themselves as liberal. so she's a conservative. i read the book cover to cover. >> the problem is she hasn't convinced the american people that she's up to par on issues and the graph tass necessary to be a national -- and the
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gravitas to be a national leader. conservative or liberal, you have to be qualified. sean: i'll admit the media did not give the same scrutiny to the anointed one, the president, as they gave to governor palin. >> life has never been to fair -- has never been fair for conservatives in america. i think she is getting the last laugh. sean: why? >> she has got a book. a lot of people are going fob reading it -- are going to be reading it and a real person behind the image and she will be giving issue interviews like the one you're doing tomorrow and she will have a second chance to reintroduce herself to the american people. and many think -- she is back and she said i didn't retire, i just reloaded. sean: maybe the campaign did make a mistake. and i knew the people -- >> and she made mistakes, too. sean: first, she's the first to say, because i did see her and i'll get into more details with her about this tomorrow night. but for example, the couric
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interview. it turns out that this is what, three, four, five-part interview. they gave her an enormous amount of time. >> and nine minutes out of several hours of tape. sean: one is what newspapers do you read? and she is thinking, well, what you think i'm from alaska and i don't read newspapers? she is obviously an intelligent woman. >> the problem is the handlers should not have let her sit for nine hours. sean: with anybody. >> with anybody. that is just bad politics. and bad campaigning. sean: what do you think what frank luntz just said earlier? 15 minutes, especially if you're a conservative with the liberal media, 15 minutes. live to tape. or live or forget it. >> two cameras, no editing. >> absolutely right. and i can tell you as a professional campaign consultant, you always insist on control of the process. because if you don't, you lose. >> i think the worst part is of those katie couric interviews, i don't think the mccain campaign kept a complete tape
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of its own of that whole thing. i would love to see it. i would love to see the entire tape in its entirety. we'll never see that. we'll only see the nine minutes cbs selected. >> i'm not even a political consultant and when i heard she would -- that katie would be the first interview, i thought this is the same katie that tears presidents apart. people who have sat in that oval office. and i thought something's got to be up here. they've agreed to sit down with her. i had -- nothing against katie. but that wouldn't have been my first interview. sean: charlie gibson was. i was the second. and then katie was third. >> there's no reason to even do katie at that point. the debate was coming up. they didn't need to do it. and to put her unprepared, really, made no sense. >> and the other thing that was hard is she was now having to adapt to senator mccain's positions. she couldn't voice her hone positions. she now had to voice his positions. sean: otherwise it will be seen as a conflict within the campaign. that's a good point. >> and having the last laugh, she may never run for president
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again. she is still going to be an incredible force in american politics because her pac is bringing in money. she sent out email donation requests and she will be supporting a lot of candidates who share her views. she is going to be a major force in american politics. you can do an awful lot in this country for the public good without ever being president. and she may prove that. sean: i think there's going fob a lot of -- going to be a lot of see, i told you sos, president barack obama's extremism, socialism, rad -- radicalism. you admit he's a radical. >> sarah palin is the only consistent coherent voice who can command broad national consensus. are you announcing your candidacy tonight, sean? sean: you would vote for me? >> absolutely. sean: you would not vote for me. >> you're honest. sean: would you vote for me? >> i'll think about it. >> lou dobbs is ahead of you. sean: dobbs is running. >> right now i would based on the people who are going to
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run. sean: we'll come back with more from our great, great american panel straight ahead. .
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sean: and we continue now with our great american panel. all right. we have the president, let's see, create or save jobs. let's see, they are finding jobs, doug, in congressional districts that don't exist. they have lost 4 million jobs since a year ago. and they are telling the american people they have created all these jobs. is that a lie? >> yeah. that's what david obey, the chairman of the oversight committee said, a ranking democrat. and, sean, it also points out that we don't have a real policy to promote employment. we're not stimulating the economy. we got to cut the payroll tax. we have got to offer tax credits for real jobs that are lasting. not phony jobs that don't exist.
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sean: you are a democrat. where is your party saying the very things you are suggesting. >> they are not. that's the problem. you saw what happened at the elections a couple weeks ago. that was a warning sign. john fund knows it, i think vince knows it. sean: i know it? >> you know it better than anybody. sean: pelosi is in reach of losing her speakership. i believe that can happen. we actually launched on our web site, john, conservative 2010. every state and district it's interactive go, to your state, go to your district. getting positions on every candidate. i don't care if you are incumbent or challenger. we will know where they stabbed. >> sean, in january, the democrats are going to launch universal voter registration. that means it will take everyone on a list from welfare offices to unemployment offices, to driver's license to property lists. they will automatically register these people regardless of whether or not they are duplicates. they are federalize our election systems in four states to adopt universal voter registration. registering people without them
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even asking for it i think that's how they are going to win the next election. they are going to change the rules. >> they are losing the monopoly on the media fox news suspect. everybody else on cable is down. talk radio is through the roof. conservative books are selling. liberal perspective books aren't selling. it's all -- >> sean, can you register everybody, can you control the media. but, you know what? if you don't have ideas and you don't deliver for the american people, you lose. sean: here is what i am proposing as a conservative for the republican party. all right. following the ' 3 victories, the gubernatorial races in virginia and new jersey, the republicans won after clinton tried nationalizing health care. that led to '94, first time in 40 years republicans take over congress. they had a peeves paper. on the piece of paper, they had 10 items. they sign their name to the piece of paper. i want to see another contract with america and i want to make it very simple. party of national defense, fiscal responsibility. eliminate earmarks.
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energy independence. free market solutions. will it work? >> it would work. we went into the white house in '95 with bill clinton. we took away that agenda and we put the democrats in power for about six years. sean: clinton, to his credit, and there you go, hannity, first nice thing you ever said about me. clinton was pragmatic. clinton changed the end of the avery big government is over. >> he is the survivor. sean: exactly. obama have those instincts? >> it worries me, sean. because i was asked a year ago will he moderate? will he come back to the middle on terrorism? will he not go after the cia? sean: well? >> i'm shocked. he is doing it. sean: i'm not. >> i think what's going on with new york and the k.s.m. deal and the trials it's a back door to the cia. they couldn't do frontal attack. they are going to go around and have the aclu do their dirty work in a public courtroom. sean: they are doing it both ways. they are trying to investigate
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them. they have had open hostility with the cia. they are going to put the cia on trial. intelligence on trial. reveal enhanced interrogations, evidence they acquired is not going to be admissible, john fund. >> sean, the only thing that will change them and force them to moderate is approval rate of 40% or below. at that point they will be panicked, however, remember right now if they pass health care they are going to create hundreds of though sands of new jobs for unionized workers in the service employees union which is heavy with public employees. sean: you think they are going to steal this election? >> they will create the conditions in which you can have the rule book change. you can have lots of people who will get jobs from the public sector and therefore. >> american people than john fund. they are not going to go for policies that increase spending, increase the deficit, and put us at risk overseas. they are not going to do it. the american people are practical, moderate and rationale. sean: so if he doesn't moderate, they lose everything? >> that's exactly what i'm